Topic: High note bocals

I'm wondering if any oboists have found an English horn bocal that they like specifically for playing in the upper register. The concept of a "high note bocal" is familiar to bassoonists, but I don't often hear English horn players address it. Thanks for any thoughts!

Andrew Nogal
oboe/English horn

Re: High note bocals

Hi Andy...

I sent your question to several EHornists.  I'll post the answers as I get them.

Delmar

Elizabeth Masoudnia, EH Philly, said she really likes the Etoile bocal for high notes....

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Re: High note bocals

One English horn player said this.....""more often the shaper tip is too wide in the throat/belly and that has a lot more to do with it (getting the high notes) than the bocal.""

Last edited by delmar (2016-11-14 12:30:08)

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Re: High note bocals

Thanks, Delmar. I haven't tried the Étoile bocal yet.

I should have specified that the pitches I need to sound reliably are (written) F#, G, and G#, three/four ledger lines above the staff.

Last edited by oboeandy (2016-11-14 14:53:37)

Andrew Nogal
oboe/English horn

Re: High note bocals

From Harold Smoliar, EH Pittsburgh Sym.


Loree made a series of H bocals for this. My shaper tip makes them unnecessary but others seem to like them.

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Re: High note bocals

Interesting. I thought that the "H" designated "high pitch" (A=443) but I guess I'll have to give those a try, too.

Andrew Nogal
oboe/English horn

Re: High note bocals

From Russ deLuna SF Symphony
The issue that Andrew N is dealing with is best addressed with a reed that is not too wide.  I have never found Lorée bocals work well, in general.  I use Hiniker bocals and they work great up in the extreme high register.  I think it's more of a reed issue!

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