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September 20, 2012 at 3:50 pm #95326Trent JacobsParticipant
I’m wondering if there’s a bassoon case out there that allows you to keep both the balance hanger and a right hand rest/crutch on the instrument when you put it in the case.
The newest Marcus Bonna cases and the Kolbl case modeled after the MB case let you keep the balance hanger on.
Some of the Fox cases and the Bam High-Tech cases let you keep the right hand rest on.
No case I can think of can accommodate both.
I’m happy with my BAM case, but I do have to take the balance hanger off to put my bassoon away, so I was curious. I’m not replacing it any time soon, but I couldn’t think of any cases that would even fit both.September 21, 2012 at 3:40 am #115502David A. WellsParticipant
I don’t think I’ve seen the new balance-hanger-friendly Bonna cases. But, would it be possible to rotate the boot joint in one of them such that the crutch would lie under the wing joint? This would necessitate replacing the boot’s foam cradles with custom jobs, I’m sure.
Or, since I know you have a co-worker who likes to exercise his technical and mechanical genius, what about a folding or retractable balance hanger? Or perhaps some sort of quick-release mechanism that’d make installing/removing the balance hanger much faster?September 21, 2012 at 3:46 am #115503Trent JacobsParticipant
Folding balance hanger? I don’t know that I’d trust that, no matter who built it. A clip like pin in stead of the thumb screw would be faster I guess…
I don’t know how you’d rotate a boot joint in any case that doesn’t already have space for the crutch in such a way that would allow the crutch to stay on. My BAM case fits mine fine, but it’s a rarer instrument layout (which is very good since I’d rather lock my crutch in place so the rotation is exactly the same all the time)
The balance hanger friendly cases have a little slot cut out of the divider between the boot joint and that accessory compartment. The balance hanger slides right in sticking in to that compartment. Pretty slick. Bonna and Kolbl are both doing it now.September 21, 2012 at 1:04 pm #115504Ian WhiteParticipant
You can usually keep both on in the Kim Walker type gig bags.September 21, 2012 at 7:21 pm #115505David A. WellsParticipant
I just played around with my Püchner in its Bonna compact case. If I rotate the boot joint about 20°, the crutch fits between the bottom of the case and my wing joint. It makes it a little tough to close the case, but I think that well-made custom foam cradles could reposition the boot so that it wouldn’t interfere. Don’t know if this would work with the new balance-hanger cutouts though. Also – I don’t know that your custom crutch would fit in the same space.
As for a hinged/folding balance hanger – there are certainly hinges and pivots out there meant to bear far more than the weight of a bassoon. Here’s one that’s rated to 200lbs and even kind of looks like a balance hanger: http://absupply.net/deltana-ph60-pivot-knife-hinge-brass-base.aspxSeptember 23, 2012 at 11:34 pm #115507Nancy DuncanParticipant
Like Ian above, I was thinking of a soft gig bag. These are usually accommodating enough so that you can get a lot of extra stuff in them. Wouldn’t work if you really want a hard case, tho.September 24, 2012 at 8:49 pm #115508Dean WilliamsParticipant
I have a Takeda gig bag that accommodates both the crutch and the balance hanger on my Takeda. Whether or not yours fits may well be another subject of discussion. Here is a link to a Koelbl cast that is astonishingly similar. Keep in mind that I have a gentleman’s model bassoon, even though I have yet to be called a gentleman.
Good luck in your search.
Hi, Trent!September 24, 2012 at 8:54 pm #115509Trent JacobsParticipant
That Kolbl case will be just like the Kim Walker ones as Nancy mentioned.
Seems like the soft cases are the only ones that will do it. Must have flexible interiors.
I’m pretty sure that Gentlemen’s model case won’t let you keep the balance hanger on, by the way. It’d stick out the top.September 24, 2012 at 9:56 pm #115506Dean WilliamsParticipant
My case does allow the balance hanger to remain on the bassoon while it’s all zipped up. Trent, if you have a Takeda gig bag in stock, you might check to see if your bassoon’s boot and balance hanger fit in. It might be longer than mine.April 1, 2018 at 3:51 pm #115510dtharp301Participant
This is a very old thread, but I figured that I would add my two cents into it. The marcus bonna M2 cases do allow you to keep both the crutch and the balance hanger on your bassoon I believe. It works with my standard fox crutch that comes with a 240, but I don’t know if any other crutches would work differently. There is a small foam square that holds the boot joint from rattling around, so you’d need to move that further down the boot joint and the crutch will fit in. The boot joint goes in sideways, so the balance hanger wraps around the accessory compartment. The only scary part about this case is the bell storage, which stores it in the top of the case, sort of like a weisman or yamaha case, but I have yet to find any signs of damage to the bell due to the protective foam pad. Hope this helps
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